[cas-dev] RESTful CAS API

Scott Battaglia scott.battaglia at gmail.com
Wed Apr 23 13:10:12 EDT 2008


I suppose I should put more examples up ;-)

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Smith, Matt <matt.smith at uconn.edu> wrote:

> Ahh .. excellent response - thanks.  My concern was that "username" and
> password", from the example, would be an integral part of the API, but
> you have alleviated that concern.
>
> -Matt
>
> On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 12:33 -0400, Scott Battaglia wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Smith, Matt <matt.smith at uconn.edu>
> > wrote:
> >         Scott -
> >
> >         <hat type="security">
> >
> >          If a service is trying to authenticate to CAS as itself, is
> >         ID/Password the right kind of credential?  Seems like a
> >         stronger
> >         mechanism could be encouraged by default.  Perhaps X.509 or
> >         similar?
> >
> > The example uses username/password but the actual thing would go
> > through the entire service layer and thus can utilize any of the
> > authentication mechanisms the CAS service supports.
> >
> >
> >
> >          I also worry that this API makes it too "easy" for a service
> >         to pop-up
> >         a dialog box asking for a user's credentials, and perform
> >         validation,
> >         bypassing the whole WebISO thing without the CAS admin being
> >         aware.
> >         Yeah, it is possible today by screen-scraping the 'LT' param
> >         from the
> >         login script and submitting it with the ID/Password, but this
> >         API makes
> >         it much easier.  Defaulting this API to use a mechanism like
> >         X.509,
> >         GSSAPI/SPNEGO, etc eliminates this undesired use.
> >
> > Again, this API doesn't make statements about what you should do.
> > That's your own organizations call.  With our SOAP service at Rutgers,
> > we can't authenticate anything but service username/password through
> > the SOAP service.  Username/password for people fails. But that's a
> > choice we made.  You'll also find people who would hope to integrate
> > this with their desktop clients who would want the ability to
> > authenticate users.
> >
> > Just as CAS doesn't tell you that username/password may or may not be
> > strong enough for people, it makes no statements about what your
> > organization should do with regards to securing services.  It makes
> > available everything that CAS has to offer and allows you to configure
> > it to be as restrictive or relaxed as you want.
> >
> >
> >
> >         </hat>
> >
> >         <hat type="developer">
> >          Yeah -- those point do make the problem space *much* more
> >         complicated.
> >         But, they are important to consider anyway.
> >         </hat>
> >
> > I disagree that it makes it much more complicated.  CAS has been
> > designed from the ground up to support (in theory) many different
> > types of credentials, and any restrictions (or lack of) associated
> > with that.  This is merely another layer on top of the service layer
> > to marshal credentials (much like the MVC layer is).  In fact, parts
> > of the MVC layer may be able to be reused.
> >
> > These are all good points, but I believe the way CAS is designed
> > allows for you to be as restrictive (or unrestrictive as you want) in
> > a fashion similar to the MVC layer (but I suppose we'll see when we
> > try to actually develop it ;-))
> >
> > -Scott
> >
> >
> >
> >         HTH,
> >         -Matt
> >
> >
> >         On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 09:32 -0400, Scott Battaglia wrote:
> >         > All,
> >         >
> >         > We have need of a way of programmatically obtaining tickets
> >         for
> >         > purposes of service to service authentication.  We've
> >         previously used
> >         > a SOAP-based web service (which we've kept internal).  We're
> >         planning
> >         > on moving to a much lighter approach, to make it easier for
> >         our
> >         > non-Java clients (SOAP isn't necessarily fun to
> >         parse/construct), but
> >         > we're most likely going to contribute it back as a module in
> >         the CAS
> >         > project, as it seems like something other people could use
> >         (and I
> >         > believe some people have hinted at needing something).
> >         >
> >         > To that end, we've posted a suggested API for obtaining TGTs
> >         and
> >         > Service Tickets:
> >         > http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/CASUM/RESTful+API
> >         >
> >         > Please let us know if you have any feedback, additional
> >         ideas, etc.
> >         >
> >         > Thanks
> >         > -Scott
> >         >
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